with relatively meager expendture an enemy is imposing enormous cost on the united states and its allies. what have we gotten for the huge investment that we've made, but moreover, how do we fundamentally change the equation to start imposing greater costs on our enemies? >> well, i would say we've given our commanders freedom of maneuver and that's what i tell my organization is our purpose. they have to operate in an ied environment but ensure they have free of maneuver to get to those villages to conduct operations. and i would tell you that's what i think we've given them. it is the weapon of choice. and as i said, we are operating in this ied environment and it's tough, and we have to continue to adapt and evolve to be able to do that. but as we look to the future, we have to figure out a way to drive up their costs and drive down ours. as i talk to our industry partners, and as we talk about the future and some of our needs for the future, i tell them it's gotta be affordable. their business model is crushing ours when for a couple hundred dollars they can produce six to eight ieds, isn'